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This season’s most experienced contestant, Jerry Macaluso,
was sent home for that very reason.
FANGORIA: A lot was made on the show about your past
experience in the FX industry, and the fact that you took a break. For those
that are unfamiliar, can you tell me what your FX experience was up until your
JERRY MACALUSO: I owned a company called SOTA FX. I
supervised movies ranging from GODS AND MONSTERS to all the WISHMASTER sequels,
the HALLOWEENTOWNs, AMITYVILLE HORROR movies, CHILDREN OF THE CORN movies;
somewhere over one hundred, two hundred movies.
FANG: I guess I’m a little unclear as to why you left the
MACALUSO: During the slow times for FX, I would work for big
toy companies, developing toys, and that turned into a big company called SOTA
Toys, [which] became so big it ate up all my time. So, that with the
combination of the frustration of the movie industry at the time…
FANG: So what made you come back? Why come back to FX when
it’s an industry being challenged by CG FX. I would think it would be even more
MACALUSO: It probably is. But I have a successful toy
company, financially, and a lot of free time. So it’s more of a fun thing. I
don’t have to do it for a living. But I still love doing it. So what better
time to dabble in FX again than when you already have this other company to
FANG: So why participate in FACE OFF?
MACALUSO: I guess the question would be “Why not?” It looked
like a lot of fun first season. Conor [McCullagh, winner of season one] has
worked for me for a long time. He told me it was difficult, but also a lot of
fun. I like to try new things. It just seemed like a cool thing to do.
FANG: Above and beyond the lack of time and working with
other people, what was the most difficult part about being on a TV show?
MACALUSO: Figuring out the process the judges and production
used to make their decisions.
FANG: Do you think you figured it out?
MACALUSO: I don’t think it is figure-able out-able. I think
it’s an ongoing process. It’s organic and it changes depending on the
challenge, depending on who is on stage. There were just too many variables to
ever figure it out. But, I think after awhile we started to understand it a
FANG: What was the most difficult challenge?
MACALUSO: I guess this last one (“Alien Interpreters”), the
one I got eliminated on. I bit off way more than I could chew.
FANG: After watching all of last season, and all the
episodes up until your elimination, I have to say the reason they gave for
eliminating you seemed really forced. The color of your makeup? Really?
MACALUSO: I’m not one-hundred percent sure how much I can
say [laughs]. Yeah, it was forced. Everybody felt it was forced. They were
looking for something. Really, I went home because I didn’t show the level of
passion and commitment that other people were, and I can’t really argue that. I
see it, I understand it, I accept it. Glenn [Hetrick] even mentioned it during
deliberations, and he’s right. Considering my experience level, and what I’ve
done in the past and awards and stuff, what I showed up with on stage was a
travesty. Was it the worst? No, Sue’s was way worse. But that’s not the point.
The point was mine should have been way better than it was. So, I think that’s closer
to what really happened. So I don’t necessarily disagree with the judges. I do
disagree with how they presented it on the show.
FANG: So it sounds like they’re judging on a sliding scale.
MACALUSO: Absolutely. Total bell curve, sliding scale.
FANG: Having watched a lot of these competition reality
shows, it seems that in a lot of cases, the winner is someone who needs to win,
rather than who should win. Well, except FACE OFF season one. So maybe you
didn’t need to win because you’re so established, as opposed to some of these
kids right out of school? Do you agree with that?
MACALUSO: I do agree with it, but at the same time I don’t
think that’s an excuse in the sense that I was kicking ass all season, and then
suddenly I was kicked off. I wasn’t kicking ass all season. My stuff, except
the old age challenge and the witch, was pretty lackluster. It wasn’t strong. I
wasn’t coming across as strong as I should have. I wouldn’t peg it on that.
FANG: It seemed more like you and Conor, having worked so
much, were being judged by your peers. Was that weird?
MACALUSO: It’s not weird. It’s—I wouldn’t say that Ve
[Neill] and Patrick [Tatopoulos] are peers. Ve and Patrick are immensely more
successful in the makeup FX field than either of us. Glenn on the other hand, I
think both Conor and I have more way credits and experience than Glenn.
However, I found Glenn’s critiques to actually be pretty good. He’s got a good
FANG: What do you think is the net gain from having been on
MACALUSO: I had three goals for the show. And all of them
have been accomplished. One was to have fun, and it was a lot of fun; one of
the most fun things I’ve ever done. Two, to make new friends. Ian [Cromer] and
I see each other every day. Miranda [Jory] and I see each other every other
day. Rayce [Bird] comes out and stays at my house every third week. We’re real,
real close. And the last one was to dabble and get my foot back into FX. So I’m
doing that. All of them were accomplished.
FANG: What advice would you give to someone applying for
MACALUSO: Not to sound cynical, but don’t forget that it’s a
TV show. Don’t forget that there are so many factors at play other than the
creative aesthetic and the quality of your work at that moment. Be consistent.
Realize that art, design, concept is way more important than technical skills.
FANG: One person I have to bring up because she’s becoming a
story point on the show – Sue Lee. She’s a bit emotional, yes?
MACALUSO: Sue and I didn’t get along from the beginning
because Sue is a very emotional person, and I’m a very logical [person], and
overly emotional people drive me nuts. So we didn’t get along. However, once we
worked together on the relay race Foundation Challenge, we talked it out and we
were like, “Alright, let’s get along.” And we did. We got along just fine after
that, but she is very emotional. People like to talk about my ego. Sue’s ego is
huge, they just don’t show it as much. She has been told she’s a prodigy her
whole life, and she really believes it. However, she’s a nice girl and she’s
really talented. She really is talented. But sometimes she talks, what I
consider, too much. And for example in [my] last episode, they didn’t really
show it, but she’d been boasting about her win on the old age [challenge], constantly.
And that’s when I kind of just snapped about her old age [makeup].
FANG: What are you working on next?
MACALUSO: I’m producing and directing a movie called, at the
moment, BRAVO ONE NINE. It’s a half-million dollar zombie movie. This is my
first feature as a director. I’ve got some really great friends like Tony
Randel (HELLRAISER 2) and Richard Elfman (FORBIDDEN ZONE), all coaching me, so
it should be interesting. The best part is I’m using Rayce, Miranda, Ian and
Frank [Ippolito], and if her schedule is clear, Megan [Areford, both FACE OFF
season one]. A bunch of FACE OFF people.
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